tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10261187.post112431084341517789..comments2024-03-19T06:59:24.269-04:00Comments on By Neddie Jingo!: VindicationNeddiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17079885040758748553noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10261187.post-1124410317582072582005-08-18T20:11:00.000-04:002005-08-18T20:11:00.000-04:00Love what I'm reading here. Good stuff from Neddie...Love what I'm reading here. Good stuff from Neddie and his correspondents.<BR/><BR/>Ned: Know you don't really want to, but more posts on politics would be appreciated by this writer (RANTER) if you could bring yourself to wax poetic on these MFs.<BR/><BR/>Well, okay, I asked...Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10261187.post-1124384783387183412005-08-18T13:06:00.000-04:002005-08-18T13:06:00.000-04:00Blogger.com! Cock-sucka!I had a nice thoughtful re...Blogger.com! Cock-<I>sucka!</I><BR/><BR/>I had a nice thoughtful reply to xtcfan, complete with links and a parody of a 1968 protest chant -- and Blogger ATE THE BITCH.<BR/><BR/>Upshot: Nothing like a deeply unpopular war to make a Presidency fall apart, LBJ'numbers tanked nine months before the election, Bushites are here for three more years, who knows WTF they're going to try to get those poll numbers back up, protest is pointless, witness how fast Cindy Sheehan became "about" Cindy Sheehan and not "about" GWB, <I>Hey, hey, GWB/How many kids did you kill this week?</I><BR/><BR/>Eat THIS, Blogger. Just you try.<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/08/17/AR2005081701847.html" REL="nofollow">Peter Beinart in today's WashPost</A>Neddiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17079885040758748553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10261187.post-1124382511572505082005-08-18T12:28:00.000-04:002005-08-18T12:28:00.000-04:00Don't forget that we have to ensure that in any el...Don't forget that we have to ensure that in any election the votes are counted and not rigged. None of this matters if they rig the elections.The Viscount LaCartehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12206171681005442662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10261187.post-1124381823774717722005-08-18T12:17:00.000-04:002005-08-18T12:17:00.000-04:00Thought-provoking post, NJ. Yes, I'm glad to see W...Thought-provoking post, NJ. Yes, I'm glad to see W's numbers slipping, but do I need to point out that approval ratings don't necessarily translate into action at the polls? Even when people are dissatisfied, they will stick with the devil they know, especially when that devil tells them everything they want to hear. Who cares that he didn't follow up? Our collective memory is not that long in America.<BR/><BR/>I remember 1968 well. I was 9, just starting to take an interest in the wider world, and it was obvious to me even then that 1968 was different. I would read LIFE magazine each week when it arrived, and was stunned by the images of scary (we moved to a suburb of Detroit in August of that year, and I remember my Eisenhower-Republican parents wondering if it would be safe, given the riots that had occured there the previous year) and exciting things (there were great moments in the counterculture, as all forms of expression experienced a seismic shift).<BR/><BR/>Are we in for another 1968? Unfortunately not, I think. You've written, in other forums, very articulately about the difference between then and now. As you pointed out, in the vast majority of cases, protest -- in whatever form -- is now co-opted so quickly by the Establishment that it's lost the bite it had back then. The one bright spot now, for me, is the anarchy of the 'net, and I wonder how long we'll continue to have that.<BR/><BR/>So, IMO, I think we're looking at 1986 more than 1968. Dubya has always struck me as Raygun Lite, and just as Ronnie's presidency fell apart in his second term, Dubya's will, too. (Of course, without 9/11, Dubya never would have gotten a second term.) But that won't stop a "kinder, gentler" Republican (John McCain, maybe) from getting elected in 2008. I don't think we'll get another Dem in the White House until 2012. If we're lucky. And, if we're lucky, things won't be so far gone by then that we won't be able to fix them.<BR/><BR/>Linkmeister, Ned's right, there are part of DC, especially on the NE side of the Hill (where I used to live), that have still not recovered. Amazing, and sad.XTCfanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12361374492348913096noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10261187.post-1124368405980056742005-08-18T08:33:00.000-04:002005-08-18T08:33:00.000-04:00Neddie,Well, if you want to get TECHNICAL...!!!So,...Neddie,<BR/><BR/>Well, if you want to get TECHNICAL...!!!<BR/><BR/>So, Ned, was that the worst year since you and I graced the planet? How about one of your most excellent essays, comparing say '01, '02 etc. to '68 or worse?The Viscount LaCartehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12206171681005442662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10261187.post-1124327453823391942005-08-17T21:10:00.000-04:002005-08-17T21:10:00.000-04:00>> I just remembered that King and >> Kennedy got ...>> I just remembered that King and <BR/>>> Kennedy got shot in rapid succession. <BR/><BR/>Dude: <BR/><BR/>These are the headlines John was reading while writing "Revolution 1":<BR/><BR/>- Prague Spring<BR/>- Pueblo Incident<BR/>- Tet Offensive<BR/>- Viet Cong attacks US Embassy in Saigon<BR/>- Hué<BR/>- First Battle of Saigon<BR/>- My Lai Massacre.<BR/>- Johnson decides not to run for reelection.<BR/><BR/>We're through March.<BR/><BR/>- What would become the Baader-Meinhof Gang explodes its first bomb<BR/>- MLK assassinated. Cities explode in riots. In 2005 parts of Washington DC have STILL not recovered.<BR/>- Enoch Powell delivers "Rivers of Blood" Speech<BR/>- Columbia University taken over by students<BR/>- Les Événements du Mai: Paris Riots. French Government damned nearly overthrown by students and workers<BR/>- RFK assassinated<BR/>- (hah!) Saddam Hussein becomes the Vice Chairman of the Revolutionary Council in Iraq after a coup d'état<BR/>- Prague Spring is brutally ended by Soviet invasion of Checkoslovakia<BR/>- Chicago Democratic Convention. Hippies get heads busted.<BR/><BR/>That's through August.<BR/><BR/>- DOD announces US Army and Marines will be sending about 24,000 troops back to Vietnam for involuntary second tours <BR/>- Johnson announces end to all bombing in North Vietnam effective Nov. 1.<BR/>- Nixon defeats Humphrey and Wallace in extremely close election<BR/>- On Nov. 11, bombing of Laos commences.<BR/><BR/>After all this, it's heroin and hopelessness for Dr. Winston. Any wonder? <BR/><BR/><I>Everybody had a good year...</I>Neddiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17079885040758748553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10261187.post-1124322529977721292005-08-17T19:48:00.000-04:002005-08-17T19:48:00.000-04:00Excellent post and links. I have fond memories of...Excellent post and links. I have fond memories of '68. I was 11 and the music was great. We saw Lennon in the "Hey Jude" performance with some serious long hair and attitude. My brother was back from Viet Nam in one piece, and my parents were saying that if they had it to do over again they would have sent him to Canada. That was a leap for them, as my dad was a veteran of the good war. The times they were a changin'. <BR/><BR/>Shit - I just remembered that King and Kennedy got shot in rapid succession. Maybe that was the beginning of all this? Two charismatic liberal leaders gone...The Viscount LaCartehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12206171681005442662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10261187.post-1124320479770841962005-08-17T19:14:00.000-04:002005-08-17T19:14:00.000-04:00Forgot to mention... I'm from Rhode Island. Anecdo...Forgot to mention... I'm from Rhode Island. Anecdotal evidence more than confirms those stats.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10261187.post-1124320335617587742005-08-17T19:12:00.000-04:002005-08-17T19:12:00.000-04:00First term objective: get re-elected.Second term o...First term objective: get re-elected.<BR/>Second term objective: leave a legacy.<BR/>Mission Accomplished!!!<BR/>Man's right on track.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com