tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10261187.post115915270051650427..comments2024-03-19T01:28:30.002-04:00Comments on By Neddie Jingo!: Getting Inside the SkinNeddiehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17079885040758748553noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10261187.post-1159496588083620612006-09-28T22:23:00.000-04:002006-09-28T22:23:00.000-04:00Beatlesque means ""good" - too good for anything t...<EM>Beatlesque</EM> means ""good" - too good for anything to be labeled as such except for maybe some things that <A HREF="http://www.allmusic.com/cg/amg.dll?p=amg&searchlink=XTC&sql=11:imf6zffhehok%7ET1" REL="nofollow"><EM>these guys</EM> </A> have done.The Viscount LaCartehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12206171681005442662noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10261187.post-1159249588149762632006-09-26T01:46:00.000-04:002006-09-26T01:46:00.000-04:00Akatabi - I visited the site and came across this ...Akatabi - I visited the site and came across this bit describing Eleanor Rigby:<BR/><BR/>"You can look at this song from at least two angles and try to pull it apart with great clinical precision; the Verismo lyrics and grainy, tintype backing arrangement for strings on the one side, and the more familiar bluesy, syncopated, boxy form on the other. But the truth here is even more elusive than usual, and I dare say that the real irony of this song is to be confronted in the extreme to which the otherwise analytically separable elements within its blend are so well synthesized. Think of it as an amalgam whose elements can no longer be so easily separated ever again once combined."<BR/><BR/>I believe Alan Pollack somehow gets at the 'Beatlesque' dilemma -- what's difficult to summarize can be more easily but unsatisfyingly caricaturized instead, so would you please pass me that sitar?Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10261187.post-1159219556477820832006-09-25T17:25:00.000-04:002006-09-25T17:25:00.000-04:00I did a little digging to look into what might def...I did a little digging to look into what might define Beatlesque in their covers of others' songs to eliminate the variable of their writing and came up with <A HREF="http://www.icce.rug.nl/~soundscapes/DATABASES/AWP/awp-notes_on.shtml" REL="nofollow">this</A> site (maybe already known to the <I>cognoscenti</I>). Plenty of analysis, but for me no real reason why their "Please Mr. Postman" or "Twist and Shout" etc. is Beatlesque (let alone better or worse than the original). Wish I had musical eidetic imagery or could conveniently hear both side by side.<BR/><BR/>For fun, can you guess the Beatles tune referred to in this somewhat turgid quote from Alan W. Pollack?<BR/><BR/>"Compositionally, the song is a clever triumph of formal articulation over rote monothematicism by virtue of controlled, subtle variation in a number of departments. That's an excessively highfalutin way of saying, gee, the whole three and a half minute track is played out over the same unvarying eight-bar chord progression, and yet, rather than sounding painfully monotonous, it creates the impression of a something developed with the full formal scale and variety you typically expect from a "song" The secret is in the handling of the vocal style, lyrics, and instrumentation. And it bears some comparison with the way Messrs. Berry and Penniman (et al) know how to create a high-level form out of what is otherwise an unvarying series of twelve-bar frames."<BR/><BR/><A HREF="http://www.icce.rug.nl/~soundscapes/DATABASES/AWP/rr.shtml" REL="nofollow">answer</A>.<BR/><BR/>H. Rumbold, Master BarberH. Rumbold, Master Barberhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06584302712998121919noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10261187.post-1159208477389610232006-09-25T14:21:00.000-04:002006-09-25T14:21:00.000-04:00Simon: God, I hate music videos. Hate, hate, HATE ...Simon: God, I hate music videos. Hate, hate, HATE them. All. That Silverchair one made me want to kill something. Music's too damned important to be relegated to the soundtrack of some asshole's cod-arty "interpretation" of a song.<BR/><BR/>Wow -- what an amazing disconnect there was between the Fabs' public image and what they were *really* doing while recording "Strawberry Fields." <BR/><BR/>Steve et al.: You have a point about Beatlesque-itude. I'll have to carefully define it before trying to analyze it. One thing becomes immediately apparent: There's pre- and post-marijuana Beatlesqueness. I'm referring to the Amphetamine Beatles of 1963-65, who knocked out massive, world-altering hit after hit while being jerked around like yo-yos. Magnificent two-and-a-half-minute jewels of songcraft with not a piccolo trumpet in sight. And yes, I did sort of intend to get into a little musicological jabber about keys-n-stuff, but trying to make it clear for the layman.Neddiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17079885040758748553noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10261187.post-1159195614732230532006-09-25T10:46:00.000-04:002006-09-25T10:46:00.000-04:00New poli-blog -- my old buddy, Mike Norton, has st...New poli-blog -- my old buddy, Mike Norton, has started up a new blog devoted entirely to political material. Mike's a fabulous writer, a funny, witty guy, and has a good head for analysis. The new poli-blog is at http://turn-this-bus-around.blogspot.com . Fans of Glenn Greenwald could do worse than check it out.<BR/><BR/>Sorry for the shameless endorsement, but it's heartfelt. Check the blog out. If you hate it, send me an email calling me an idiot; I'll take the weight.Doc Nebulahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13052810933464744998noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-10261187.post-1159186778510190732006-09-25T08:19:00.000-04:002006-09-25T08:19:00.000-04:00In the end, Beatlesque may just be one of those me...In the end, Beatlesque may just be one of those meaningless term that one wishes never were coined.<BR/><BR/>I like your tune, Ned. Only obtained the <I>Nuggets II</I> set recently when I came across a used copy. It does set in bold relief the Beatles' impact on the world of pop music. One imagines there were so many bands in 1963-64 that they were tripping over each other on stages and in streets the world over.<BR/><BR/>If I had to peg what I think keeps records like this from matching the Beatles, I'd blame the harmonies - which the Beatles were particularly good at - and the mundane lyrics - which the Beatles managed to transcend very quickly, leaving those "yeah yeah yeahs" other juvenilia behind.Kevin Wolfhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17490345765638949916noreply@blogger.com